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Nope. This is the first time ive seen that option. 
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<p class="">is there any chance that you are running rivet with --ignore-beams?</p>
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<div class="">Yeah that was my guess as well w.r.t the neutrinos was missing ET, but in pp simulations there shoudnt this large of a difference. Here is a simple rivet analysis with a hepMC files that i generated for W+Jet events. </div>
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<div class="">Cheers</div>
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                  float:none; display:inline!important">it
 would help us a lot if you could implement both methods in a single minimal analysis cc file which is ready to be used, filling one histo each.</span><br class="" style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
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 difference I can see at the moment is that individual neutrinos aren't used in WFinder. It uses missing E.</span><br class="" style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
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I think there might be something happening with the WFinder in the latest version of Rivet. Ive attached two invariant mass plots here and [1] is using the WFinder and [2] is what i estimate by hand. You can see a big difference in the distributions even for
 pp at 2.76 TeV. When we do our heavy ion events we lose a whole lot of Z's which are recovered by estimating by hand. Yes, there are a few differences in the two methods, but between 0.1 and 0.2 in delR and missing ET cut, i dont think it should be such a
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[1]       WFinder wfinder(fs, Cuts::abseta < 3.0 && Cuts::pT > 20*GeV, PID::MUON, 0.0*GeV, 1000.0*GeV, 25.0*GeV, 0.2);<br class="">
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[2] in the init() method:<br class="">
      IdentifiedFinalState allleptons;<br class="">
      // allleptons.acceptIdPair(PID::ELECTRON);<br class="">
      allleptons.acceptIdPair(PID::MUON);<br class="">
      Cut cuts = Cuts::abseta < 2.5 && Cuts::pT > 20*GeV;<br class="">
      DressedLeptons leptons(fs, allleptons, 0.1, cuts);<br class="">
      addProjection(leptons, "leptons");<br class="">
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      // Leading neutrinos for Etmiss<br class="">
      LeadingParticlesFinalState neutrinos(fs);<br class="">
      // neutrinos.addParticleIdPair(PID::NU_E);<br class="">
      neutrinos.addParticleIdPair(PID::NU_MU);<br class="">
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      addProjection(neutrinos, "neutrinos");<br class="">
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      const vector<DressedLepton>& leptons = applyProjection<DressedLeptons>(event, "leptons").dressedLeptons();<br class="">
      Particles neutrinos = applyProjection<FinalState>(event, "neutrinos").particlesByPt();<br class="">
      if (leptons.size() != 1 || (neutrinos.size() == 0)) {<br class="">
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      if (p_miss.Et() < 25.0*GeV) {<br class="">
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      double invMass = sqrt(2.0 * lepton.pT()/GeV * p_miss.pT()/GeV * (cosh(lepton.eta()-p_miss.eta()) - cos( lepton.phi()-p_miss.phi()) ) );<br class="">
      _h_W_massCheck->fill(invMass, weight);<br class="">
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