[Rivet] Validation meeting

Andy Buckley andy.buckley at durham.ac.uk
Thu Nov 27 17:42:11 GMT 2008


Hendrik Hoeth wrote:
> Thus spake Andy Buckley (andy.buckley at durham.ac.uk):

> You need the following analysis specific settings:
> 
> - CDF_2008_MINBIAS:
>      tevatron1960.params
>      fpythia-longlife-stable.params
> 
> - CDF_2008_NOTE_9351:
>      tevatron1960.params
>      fpythia-cdfdrellyan.params
>      fpythia-longlife-stable.params
> 
> I fear that in Pythia 6 you will need multiple runs for the CDF_2001
> analysis. Common for all runs is tevatron1800.params. In addition to a
> run without CKIN(3) cut we're running with CKIN(3)=10 and CKIN(3)=20.

If you ignore the pT spectra, I'm pretty sure you can get reasonable
results from two independent runs with the CDF_2001 analysis: one for
the min bias plots with CKIN(3) = 0 (== unset), and one for the JET20
data: without a merging run around 30 GeV, the upper end of those histos
will go a bit wobbly, but a CKIN(3) = 15 cut should give reasonable results.

>> We would like to release very soon, probably shortly after the Atlas
>> week. The prerequisites for release are
>>
>>  * Get validation system running so we can manually okay the W+jets
>>    analysis (+ another?) for Sherpa, FHerwig and Pythia 6. Put plots
>>    online.
> 
> I would show at least one of the LEP analyses, too. The DELPHI_1996 is
> fairly simple to run in any generator and uses lots of different pieces
> of Rivet (thanks to the large number of observables).

Actually, I've just been using that as the test analysis for the runs in
the validation system ;) It's definitely a good one for the reasons
you've given.

>>>>>  * Aims for next week's working meeting.
>> To miss the MC and SM meetings, I suggest that we meet at 10am on
>> Wednesday morning.
> 
> My plane arrives at 11:05, so I'll join whenever arrive at CERN.

Okay --- it's not going to be a meeting with an agenda, anyway, and we
have more time over the following day and a half. I would personally
like this time since it means I can get some group feedback on the plots
I will show before the MC meeting.

>>>>  * Next gens for Prof tuning
>> As mentioned in the meeting: the 5 core MCnet gens are our next set on
>> the hitlist. We will finish the Py6 pT/interleaved tune to Tevatron
>> data, write it up, and then progress to Herwigs, Py8 and Sherpa. In
>> that order?
> 
> I think we can start with Herwig/Py8/Sherpa in parallel to the Py6-UE
> writeup.

That's good... we should start jobs running for Py6-pT as soon as
possible: Wuppertal's batch system isn't receiving its usual hammering
from us at the moment! I also think we should include CDF_2004 (except
"Swiss Cheese -3") this time... most of the plots are looking good and
it's nice to have the option of using the data. Let's continue this on
the Professor list.

Andy

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Dr Andy Buckley
Institute for Particle Physics Phenomenology
Durham University
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