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[Rivet] Fwd: Running RAPGAP with RIVETHolger Schulz holger.schulz at physik.hu-berlin.deThu Apr 15 22:27:43 BST 2010
Tim Martin wrote: > I guess so, I've tried other versions of Pythia through changing the... > > baselibs.push_back(GenLibInfo("libpythia6", "pythia6", "419")); > Hm strange. Could you do "nm -CD libpythia6.so" and look if pytime is really not defined? In my case it is. Holger > ...line but no luck. Also tried your suggestion of piping rapgap > straight into Rivet but that sadly did not work either. > > Cheers, Tim. > > On 15 April 2010 14:48, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at ed.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Hmm, missing library symbol. That looks like one of the PYTHIA dummy >> routines that are either provided by libpythia_dummies or by the aux >> generator (AlpGen, Charybdis, Rapgap...). Maybe RapGap isn't providing >> that dummy. If not, we need to add our own to libAGILeRapGap. >> >> Thanks for the feedback, and sorry that it's still mid-development! >> Andy >> >> >> On 15/04/10 14:06, Tim Martin wrote: >> >>> Thanks Andy, >>> >>> That did it. I'm down to a runtime error! I can run Pythia with AGILe >>> ('agile-runmc Pythia6:422' works) but am still getting a python error >>> running RAPGAP though the error seems to be coming from Pythia?! I've >>> asked Holger about it as well. >>> >>> Cheers, Tim. >>> >>> tamartin at lxplus253.cern.ch$ agile-runmc Rapgap:32 -n 100000 -o >>> hepmc.fifo < rapgap/share/steer-pp-rapidity-gap >>> Generating 100000 events >>> Generator is Rapgap:32 >>> Setting random seed = 31415926 >>> Setting initial state: 2212 @ 7000.0 GeV -> <- 2212 @ 7000.0 GeV >>> AGILe.Rapgap: INFO Setting initial state... >>> AGILe.Rapgap: INFO Setting ... (KBE1) = 2212 >>> AGILe.Rapgap: INFO Setting ... (KBE2) = 2212 >>> AGILe.Rapgap: INFO Setting ... (PBE1) = 7000 >>> AGILe.Rapgap: INFO Setting ... (PBE2) = 7000 >>> AGILe.Rapgap: INFO Now calling GRAINI... >>> NEW BLOCK DATA for RAPGAP initialised >>> HERACLES 4.6.6 BLOCK DATA initialized >>> python: symbol lookup error: >>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators/pythia6/421.2/slc4_amd64_gcc34/lib/libpythia6.so: >>> undefined symbol: pytime_ >>> >>> On 14 April 2010 18:25, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at ed.ac.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> >>>> Try "autoreconf -i". This is the normal way to bootstrap an autotools >>>> setup. Should also work on lxplus (although the automake installed there >>>> is not as nice as on our release build machine, so data file >>>> installation might take a while!) >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14/04/10 17:22, Tim Martin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Andy, >>>>> >>>>> I think I'm almost there now, main problem before was I was not using >>>>> the head but rather AGILe-1.1.4. >>>>> >>>>> When I installed from the tarball I used the lines... >>>>> >>>>> ./configure --prefix=/afs/cern.ch/user/t/tamartin/scratch0/rivet/local >>>>> --with-lcgtag=slc4_amd64_gcc34 >>>>> --with-hepmc=/afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/HepMC/2.05.00/slc4_amd64_gcc34 >>>>> --with-boost=/afs/cern.ch/user/t/tamartin/scratch0/rivet/local >>>>> --enable-pyext >>>>> >>>>> make -j2 && make -j2 install >>>>> >>>>> ...to install the package but I see that there is no configure file >>>>> saved in the repository, I've tried >>>>> >>>>> autoconf configure.ac > configure >>>>> >>>>> on LXPLUS but I get the errors.... >>>>> >>>>> configure.ac:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE >>>>> If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. >>>>> See the Autoconf documentation. >>>>> configure.ac:32: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CEDAR_OSX >>>>> configure.ac:35: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LCG_TAG >>>>> configure.ac:44: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_DISABLE_STATIC >>>>> configure.ac:49: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_FFLAGS >>>>> configure.ac:49: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_FCFLAGS >>>>> configure.ac:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LIBTOOL_DLOPEN >>>>> configure.ac:54: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL >>>>> configure.ac:61: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CEDAR_HEADERS >>>>> configure.ac:61: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_ERROR >>>>> configure.ac:77: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CEDAR_LIBRARYANDHEADERS >>>>> configure.ac:81: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CPPFLAGS >>>>> configure.ac:84: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_LDFLAGS >>>>> configure.ac:85: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CXXFLAGS >>>>> configure.ac:86: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CEDAR_CHECKCXXFLAG >>>>> configure.ac:116: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL >>>>> configure.ac:123: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_EMPTY_SUBST >>>>> >>>>> Then when I try and run configure... >>>>> >>>>> ./configure: line 1348: syntax error near unexpected token `dist-bzip2' >>>>> ./configure: line 1348: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(dist-bzip2)' >>>>> >>>>> ..among others. Does anyone happen to know how to properly generate >>>>> the configure or have a copy suitable for head version of AGILe? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Tim. >>>>> >>>>> On 13 April 2010 19:02, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at ed.ac.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> RapGap and Cascade in AGILe are currently only known about by Holger, I >>>>>> think: the issue with static libraries etc. is really something that >>>>>> Hannes & co can hopefully fix. If the shared lib is in place, and can be >>>>>> found in a Genser-like structure in the path pointed at by the >>>>>> AGILE_GEN_PATH, then I *think* it should just work. The -lTRACE argument >>>>>> to agile-runmc should dump out a big list of all the paths being >>>>>> searched to find the generator libraries. >>>>>> >>>>>> As Holger has said, Rivet doesn't write ROOT tuples... well, you could >>>>>> add a private analysis that works that way, but it's not a built-in >>>>>> feature. But Rivet does read in HepMC text streams, so it may be that >>>>>> you don't need AGILe at all if you already have RapGap writing HepMC >>>>>> ASCII to stdout: just pipe the stdout into Rivet! AGILe is a convenience >>>>>> rather than a necessity, so if you have a more convenient way to steer >>>>>> it and produce HepMC, then use that instead! >>>>>> >>>>>> Feel free to ask more questions, but send them to the Rivet list, >>>>>> please... we'll hopefully have the technical stuff sorted fairly soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13/04/10 17:45, Tim Martin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Andy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm trying to run the RAPGAP generator with AGILe and RIVET and I was >>>>>>> hoping you could help with some of the technicalities I've detailed >>>>>>> below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>>> Tim. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Judith.Katzy at desy.de <judith.katzy at desy.de> >>>>>>> Date: 13 April 2010 17:24 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Running RAPGAP with RIVET >>>>>>> To: Tim Martin <tim.martin at cern.ch> >>>>>>> Cc: Judith.Katzy at cern.ch, Dr Paul R Newman <prn at hep.ph.bham.ac.uk> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry but I cannot help you with Agile. I was about to point you >>>>>>> to Holger - but it seems >>>>>>> this was already done. I can only suggest to ask Andy Buckley - he >>>>>>> should know these technical things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please let me know if you don't succeed this way - I could than point >>>>>>> you to some other tools. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>> Judith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/04/2010 17:08, Tim Martin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm having MC problems and I was hoping you could help me or point me >>>>>>>> towards someone who can. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Essentially, I'm looking to run RAPGAP to get the included pion >>>>>>>> exchange channel in diffraction and look at the forward neutron >>>>>>>> spectrum for ZDC and diffractive purposes. I have RAPGAP from Hannes >>>>>>>> Jung compiled on my AFS though I can only get it to output to STDOUT. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm hoping to use AGILe to run RAPGAP and pass the output through >>>>>>>> RIVET to get (hopefully) a root ntuple. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My problem is interfacing RAPGAP with AGILe, I have AGILe and RIVET >>>>>>>> installed and have made shared libraries for RAPGAP (as suggested in >>>>>>>> Fw:, below) but have now hit a brick wall regarding what needs to be >>>>>>>> done next to run RAPGAP in AGILe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated, >>>>>>>> Thanks, Tim. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: Holger Schulz<holger.schulz at physik.hu-berlin.de> >>>>>>>> Date: 9 April 2010 14:39 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Running RAPGAP with RIVET >>>>>>>> To: Tim Martin<tim.martin at cern.ch> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Martin wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hear from Hannes Jung that you have previously managed to run the >>>>>>>>> RAPGAP generator with RIVET to make a root ntuple. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this is not entirely correct. I managed to interface Rapgap with >>>>>>>> AGILe, a generator interface for FORTRAN generators that >>>>>>>> produces output in the common HepMC event record format. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rivet is entirely independent on any generator code now. It uses >>>>>>>> this HepMC output as only input. Furthermore the output of >>>>>>>> Rivet is currently limited to AIDA xml format although there >>>>>>>> are some tools that can do a conversion from AIDA to root but >>>>>>>> I have no idea how well they work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So what you want to to in order to run Rapgap with Rivet is >>>>>>>> to install the latest HEAD version of AGILe from the SVN repository. >>>>>>>> AGILe looks for generator libraries in some common places >>>>>>>> on your hard drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are some more stumbling blocks on the way, however. >>>>>>>> AGILe of course only works with shared libraries, but the >>>>>>>> Rapgap installation only provides you with the static library. >>>>>>>> So you will need to make a shared library libragpag32.so >>>>>>>> from the object files yourself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another thing that might go away in the future, provided Hannes >>>>>>>> can something with the parameter steering, is that you cannot >>>>>>>> change parameters in the AGILe way, i.e. specifying a text files >>>>>>>> with parameters and the values you want to set them to. >>>>>>>> Rapgap expects the steering file to be supplied as such: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> rapgap< steer-ep >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or so. So you have to run agile accordingly, e.g. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> agile-runmc Rapgap:32 -n 100000 -o hepmc.fifo< steerp_ep& rivet >>>>>>>> hepmc.fifo -a H1_2000_S4129130 -H rapgap.aida >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This would give you a file called rapgap.aida with the histograms >>>>>>>> filled according to this particular H1 analysis with the Spires ID 4129130. >>>>>>>> With the Rivet tools compare-histos and make-plots you can turn them >>>>>>>> into output like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://users.hepforge.org/~holsch/Rapgap/plots/H1_2000_S4129130_d18-x01-y01.pdf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope that helps. >>>>>>>> Holger >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this correct? And if so, do you happen to have any example code >>>>>>>>> lying around which I could have a look at? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>>>>> Tim. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: Hannes Jung<hannes.jung at desy.de> >>>>>>>>> Date: 9 April 2010 13:28 >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: rapgap >>>>>>>>> To: Tim Martin<tim.martin at cern.ch> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Tim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> very good. >>>>>>>>> yes, sorry, the particle code was just from tevatron... >>>>>>>>> Now, for analysing the output, it depends: >>>>>>>>> - if you wnat it in the ATLAS frame, then you need Judith to help you. >>>>>>>>> - H. Schultz from ATLAS did run RAPGAP also with RIVET, so you could ask him... >>>>>>>>> - i only have a fortran version... but this might be not that >>>>>>>>> usefulfor you, or ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hannes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 09.04.2010, at 13:01, Tim Martin wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Hannes, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No problem, copied lhapdf-config into ~tamartin/bin/ and it's working :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Getting output, but only to stdout at the moment, how do you go about >>>>>>>>>> analysing the output? Ideally it would be nice to have an ntuple, but >>>>>>>>>> may have to involve the MC group for that? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One other quick question, in your 7TeV pp steering file you have beam >>>>>>>>>> one set as -2212 and beam two set as 2212. Is this just a Tevatron >>>>>>>>>> typo? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your continuing help! Tim. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8 April 2010 19:30, Hannes Jung<hannes.jung at desy.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Tim >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sorry for my late reply. >>>>>>>>>>> I have now copied the lhapdf-config to the public/rapgap/share folder. >>>>>>>>>>> the lhapdf-config is also available from >>>>>>>>>>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators/lhapdf/5.3.1/slc4_amd64_gcc34/bin/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> LEt me know, if this works >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Hannes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08.04.2010, at 17:28, Tim Martin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hannes, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I see you have an entry for >>>>>>>>>>>> /afs/cern.ch/user/j/jung/.lhapdf/pdfsets-path >>>>>>>>>>>> But I can't see where it's set sadly :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it just a soft link? rapgap is refusing to run without it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, im. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 April 2010 07:00, Hannes Jung<hannes.jung at desy.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have now put rapgap into my public area: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /afs/cern.ch/user/j/jung/public/rapgap/share >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run it with (for example) >>>>>>>>>>>>> ../bin/rapgap32< steer-pp-rapidity-gap >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hannes >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06.04.2010, at 03:45, Tim Martin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sebastian, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope you had a good Easter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have a go at running rapgap this week and see how it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparing. Can't say what I'll get out of it by the 8th though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes, could you mod the permission on the rapgap dir in your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> userspace or pop it in public as I can't get at it at the moment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Tim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30 March 2010 22:24, Hannes Jung<hannes.jung at desy.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sebastian& Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have already installed RAPGAP on lxplus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find it under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /afs/cern.ch/user/j/jung/scratch0/rapgap/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you can run it with: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cd /afs/cern.ch/user/j/jung/scratch0/rapgap/share/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../bin/rapgap32< steer-pp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in this dir you also find the manual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEt me know, if you need some help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30.03.2010, at 22:41, Sebastian White wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Tim, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes and I just discussed what we might do to introduce forward >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physics into Emily and Marj's meeting on April 8. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is that with fast forward neutrons of probability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.45 in each beam direction and the very large xF coverage ATLAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has for neutrons, correlations with ZDC and barrel data are bound to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be important for their purposes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We propose to start with RAPGAP because we will have more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insight into what the code is doing with forward neutrons. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell from Judith it is not in ATHENA. However >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there must be possible tests we could do now. We can easily provide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a simple effective collimator aperture due to the beamline, since we now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> study this with HECTOR and FPtracker. Charged particles are basically >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all lost in this region. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I can find a theory PHD interested in simulation to help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes proposes that he could install RAPGAP on LXPLUS at CERN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example to get things running. What do you think? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ps. please forward if you also have colleagues who would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes Jung >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at desy.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +49 (0) 40 8998 3093 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DESY, CMS/FH1, Bldg. 1b, 331, Notkestr.85, 22603 Hamburg, FRG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -+-+-+-+ Tim Martin +-+ ATLAS +-+-+-+- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physics West, Room W313 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Birmingham, B152TT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: (+44)121 414 4631 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://cern.ch/Tim.Martin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes Jung >>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at desy.de >>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +49 (0) 40 8998 3093 >>>>>>>>>>>>> DESY, CMS/FH1, Bldg. 1b, 331, Notkestr.85, 22603 Hamburg, FRG >>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> -+-+-+-+ Tim Martin +-+ ATLAS +-+-+-+- >>>>>>>>>>>> Physics West, Room W313 >>>>>>>>>>>> University of Birmingham, B152TT >>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: (+44)121 414 4631 >>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://cern.ch/Tim.Martin >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>> Hannes Jung >>>>>>>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at desy.de >>>>>>>>>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741 >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung >>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 >>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +49 (0) 40 8998 3093 >>>>>>>>>>> DESY, CMS/FH1, Bldg. 1b, 331, Notkestr.85, 22603 Hamburg, FRG >>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -+-+-+-+ Tim Martin +-+ ATLAS +-+-+-+- >>>>>>>>>> Physics West, Room W313 >>>>>>>>>> University of Birmingham, B152TT >>>>>>>>>> Tel: (+44)121 414 4631 >>>>>>>>>> Web: http://cern.ch/Tim.Martin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>> Hannes Jung >>>>>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at desy.de >>>>>>>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741 >>>>>>>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung >>>>>>>>> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 >>>>>>>>> Fax: +49 (0) 40 8998 3093 >>>>>>>>> DESY, CMS/FH1, Bldg. 1b, 331, Notkestr.85, 22603 Hamburg, FRG >>>>>>>>> *********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley >>>>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow >>>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr Andy Buckley >>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow >>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh >>>> >>>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >>>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Dr Andy Buckley >> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow >> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh >> >> > > > >
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