[Rivet] Additional data removed from rivet

Andy Buckley andy.buckley at cern.ch
Thu Jun 5 10:22:40 BST 2014


On 05/06/14 10:09, David Grellscheid wrote:
> Hi Andy,
> 
>> The rest of the data in the HepData tables was unusably mangled because
>> (again!) the bin widths hadn't been accounted for when the data was
>> entered. I assumed that no-one had been using it until now, since it was
>> so obviously wrong!
> 
> I'm not sure which dataset you mean. Are you saying that the data used
> to be in Hepdata but was removed for inconsistencies?

We got a report from Jackie Brossamer and Marge Shapiro that this
analysis seemed to have mangled ref data. Looking into it, the HepData
data table was obviously corrupted, so I got Mike to fix it and
re-dumped the data file (getting some fixes into the HepData YODA
formatter at the same time.)

>>> I hope we haven't lost data in this manner elsewhere. We also need a
>>> flag to indicate when the YODA file is not taken 1-to-1 from Hepdata and
>>> needs to be preserved.
>>
>> Yes. Or ideally get the missing data into HepData: isn't that the
>> preferred way? I feel a bit uncomfortable about the idea that data was
>> sufficiently private that it can't go in HepData, yet somehow it's ok
>> for it to be in public Rivet releases...
> 
> In this particular case Peter suspects ALEPH_2001_S4656318 uses a
> dataset that was used for a Herwig++ internal analysis before we
> converted those to use Rivet. The source of the original analysis is
> Stefan Gieseke, I'll ask him.

Ok, thanks.

>> I would far prefer that we point ourselves toward taking everything
>> exactly as it is in HepData, except (?) in the case that the paper
>> doesn't have a HepData record at all. 
> 
> I agree with this as the general rule. It also looks like
> ALEPH_2001_S4656318 is the only exception to that rule we have so far,
> so maybe we can manage that one by hand for now.

I have a feeling there were a couple of others which were manually
modified but I have no record of which ones :-/

Andy

-- 
Dr Andy Buckley, Royal Society University Research Fellow
Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow / PH Dept, CERN


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