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[Rivet] C++11 plan for RivetAndy Buckley andy.buckley at cern.chWed Mar 23 22:19:19 GMT 2016
On 17/03/16 10:27, Holger Schulz wrote: > > > On 17/03/16 09:19, Andy Buckley wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm currently hacking together a prototype physics object smearing >> system for Rivet 2.5 or 2.6, to be beta-tested with the BSM >> experimental groups and re-casters. No capitulation: we will continue >> to require unfolded "proper" measurements, but there is BSM demand for >> Rivet and they will not bite unless we can provide at least some >> simple machinery for efficiency curves. > > I completely agree now that the ATOM guys have essentially decoupled > their efforts from Rivet. > I did something like that in my ATLAS analysis for random removal of > tracks based on track > reco efficiency and I know that there is demand to have that in rivet, too. Somehow I was interested enough in this to spend a bit of time hacking a start together. Here it is: https://rivet.hepforge.org/hg/rivet/file/tip/include/Rivet/Projections/SmearedParticles.hh https://rivet.hepforge.org/hg/rivet/file/tip/include/Rivet/Projections/SmearedJets.hh (Connoisseurs of borderline-evil code may like to note how the function hash for projection comparison is being done ;-) But no worse than what you need to do to use POSIX dlsym... aka the evil_cast in AGILe's module loader.) And here's how the SmearedJets looks in action in an analysis: FastJets fj(FinalState(Cuts::abseta < 5), FastJets::ANTIKT, 0.4); SmearedJets sj(fj, JET_EFF_ONE, JET_SMEAR_IDENTITY); Ok, those are do-nothing standard perfect efficiency and smearing functions, but the principle works. I'm populating a file with a few real efficiency and smearing functions... but they will strongly benefit from going to mandatory C++11 so we can use the new random generator machinery. And here's another C++11 killer feature for this use-case -- inline lambda functions: SmearedJets sj(fj, [](const Jet& j) { return 1 - exp(-j.pT()/(10*GeV)); }, [](const Jet& j) { return j; }); I think this stuff makes a pretty good case for going to C++11 with the addition of this feature... and then gradually converting lots of our internal Boost and hackery to use the much nicer new language features instead. >> The way I'm designing it can all be done with Boost features, but once >> again it's stuff that is part of the core language in C++11 and using >> the less-standard Boost implementations feels like going in the wrong >> direction. Also, we are starting to see submitted analyses which use >> C++11 features, and it both feels unnecessarily restrictive on our >> "clients" and is extra work for us to have to revert that code to C++98. >> >> So I would like us to make the switch to mandatory C++11 building of >> Rivet in the next couple of 2.x releases. This would also help us to >> reduce the currently huge number of "paradigm shifts" scheduled (for >> lack of imagination) on v3.0. >> >> There is one major sticking point, in the form of FastJet. While C++11 >> compatible, it makes use of auto_ptr and exposes that in its public >> headers, meaning that anyone compiling a Rivet analysis in C++11 mode >> gets a terminal output dominated by FJ auto_ptr deprecation warnings. >> There seems to be no way in GCC to disable these warnings -- or does >> someone know of one? So I think we need to put a bit of pressure on >> FastJet to make a non-complaining release; I already did this ~6 >> months ago and was told that they are working on a major new >> development, but it has not appeared and the issue is more urgent now >> (I don't know what the experiments are doing re. this). So I'll prod >> them again and hopefully we'll be able to make this switch in Rivet >> 2.5 or 2.6. > > We can just ask again, maybe point them to this forum: > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=59325 Did that: thanks for the link :-) And the timing was good: FastJet 3.2.0 is out now and at the last minute they removed auto_ptr from fjcore and added a configure-time option to disable the auto_ptrs in the main FJ interface. And it looks like LCG can be persuaded to build their FJ 3.2.0 installations using that flag, so once there is such a bundle to play with, we can make a mandatory C++11 release. Which I would like to use for beta-testing the new smearing features with interested parties. Cheers, Andy -- Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research Fellow Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow
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