[Rivet] Agile Genser - broken links

[Andy Buckley]

On 03/05/16 06:00, David Santiago Quevedo Vega wrote:
> El 02/05/16 a las 06:16, Andy Buckley escribió:
>> On 01/05/16 23:07, David Santiago Quevedo Vega wrote:
>>> Hi, hope you are well.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to install the generators for Agile in a system with no CERN
>>> LCG AFS area mounted. For this purpose I went to the Genser Mirror wiki
>>> at hepforge.org and I tried to consult the links:
>>> /http://ep-dep-sft.web.cern.ch/generators/instructions/ and
>>> /http://ep-dep-sft.web.cern.ch/generators///instructions#lbootstrap,
>>> /and to download the Agile genser bootstrap script from
>>> /https://www.phenogrid.dur.ac.uk/agile/genser/agile-genser-bootstrap.
>>> /The issue is that all these links seem to be broken. Are they really
>>> broken? Or maybe I need some special proxy or ssh connection with an
>>> account to have access to CERN's generators?
>>>
>>> I'd really appreciate your help.
>>
>> Hi Santiago,
>>
>> I think those LCG bootstrapping instructions are all outdated now. We
>> do keep a copy of the old bootstrap script at
>> https://rivet.hepforge.org/hg/contrib/file/tip but it will require
>> modification to run since the LCG package management system changed
>> and all the paths are now different.
>>
>> May I ask where you found this "Genser Mirror wiki at hepforge.org"?
>> We have tried to remove any links to AGILe and Genser mirroring from
>> the Rivet wiki, for example.
>>
>> I recently updated AGILe to be able to use the CVMFS distribution of
>> LCG libraries. This is used by Grid jobs and may be an easier thing
>> for you than the AFS area. And you can always compile your Fortran
>> generators by hand and install them into that structure: chances are
>> that you only need one or two. AGILe is anyway no help for the more
>> modern generator codes, which come with their own convenient steering
>> interfaces.
>>
>> Andy
>>
> Hi Andy,
> Thanks for your answer.
>
> I'm using the user manual suggested at /https://rivet.hepforge.org//
> which is kept on arXiv.org (/http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.0694/). In this,
> it is recommended to download and to run a bootstrap script for a quick
> and easy building of Rivet and AGILe environment
> (/http://rivet.hepforge.org/svn/bootstrap/rivet-bootstrap/).
> Before doing that, if you don't have the CERN LCG AFS area mounted (my
> case) you have to download the generators for AGILe from the wiki mirror
> that it is recommended too on this manual
> (http://rivet.hepforge.org/trac/wiki/GenserMirror).
> I have done all this process according with the manual. Do you think
> that the rivet bootstrap script that I have used is outdated now too?
> Where could I find the correct bootstrap scripts to install Rivet and
> the updated generators?

Hi Santiago,

Thanks -- I hadn't realised we referred to explicit links in the PDF 
manual. I'll update that (and the arXiv copy needs an update for the 
current series anyway.)

The short answer is as above: the latest version of AGILe can still be 
used with the LCG generators from AFS and CVMFS, but there is no longer 
a bootstrap script for it. It can also be used with local builds of LCG 
generators, but (I believe) LCG do not supply any script to do that 
bootstrapping so you would need to do it by hand. Personally I d not 
bother anymore, because it is rare to need a generator from that era 
rather than one of the current C++ ones.

To install Rivet itself, there is still a bootstrap script, but not at 
the URL listed in the manual (I'll fix that). Go to the Rivet web page, 
click on "Getting started" under the documentation heading, and follow 
the instructions.

Andy

-- 
Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research Fellow
Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow