[Rivet] ruvet and osx

James William Monk james.william.monk at cern.ch
Mon Jul 30 20:18:33 BST 2018


Thanks David,

How then does the rivet main executable work then?  That is itself a python script that loads the Rivet libs.  How does it manage to inherit the DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH

cheers,

James


> On 30 Jul 2018, at 17:28, David Grellscheid <david.grellscheid at durham.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> You've diagnosed it right. All programs in /usr/bin are considered protected, and will not be passed any DYLD environment. A python in /usr/local or /opt will work fine
> 
> Also, making the script executable does not help. The first line with the #! still calls either /usr/bin/env or /usr/bin/python with exactly the same issue
> 
>  David (on house move teabreak)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 30 July 2018 16:17:18 BST, James William Monk <james.william.monk at cern.ch> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Did we ever come across the problem that the mac System Integrity
>> Protection (SIP) does not pass on the DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH to a subprocess
>> if it thinks that subprocess is a “protected” process? I believe that
>> is the problem here, and is preventing the library path being set
>> correctly during the Rivet build because it spawns a python subprocess
>> that does not inherit the correct environment
>> 
>> It seems that if I do a python script to simply print the environment,
>> i.e.
>> 
>> 	import os
>> 	for key in os.environ.keys():
>> 	    print key
>> 
>> then execute
>> 
>> 	foo=“bar” python test
>> (where test contains the script above)
>> 
>> Then I see that foo is detected in the environment.  However, if I do
>> 
>> 	DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=“bar” python test
>> 
>> Then DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH does not show up! Presumably SIP has decided
>> that the python subprocess must be protected from malicious setting of
>> the environment.  I can see why they might think that is important,
>> since changing the path would potentially cause it to load a bad
>> version of some library.  I can disable SIP to confirm this, but that
>> requires a reboot of my mac and is not something we should ask users to
>> do.
>> 
>> I think that the fix for this is that the mk-analysis-html script has
>> to be executable.  That way it will inherit from the build environment,
>> not from the python subprocess whose environment has been wiped clean. 
>> 
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> James
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Jul 2018, at 16:36, James William Monk
>> <james.william.monk at cern.ch> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sabah,
>>> 
>>> There is a bug in the build system for the docs in Rivet 2.6 on mac. 
>> This issue has occurred before, but I only just remembered it.  It
>> looks like David Grellscheid has tried to fix it in the past, but when
>> I use the updated Makefile.am from the doc dir, I still get the same
>> problem.  I knew there was a reason I was still on Rivet 2.5.4 :)
>>> 
>>> It looks to me like there is a mistake in the setup for the
>> environment needed for the python script mk-analysis-html.  At least
>> one error is that it seems to have the PYTHONPATH pointing to the
>> installation prefix, but there is nothing there of course because Rivet
>> hasn’t been installed yet.  Another error is that DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH is
>> not set.  I tested this by modifying doc/mk-analysis-html by adding
>>> 
>>> print "Hello from mk-analysis-html.  I think $PYTHONPATH = " +
>> os.environ['PYTHONPATH']
>>> print "environ keys are"
>>> for key in os.environ.keys():
>>>  print key
>>> 
>>> This problem is only related to the building of the documentation,
>> but disabling doxygen doesn’t seem to help.  I *think* if you plough on
>> regardless and do make install, you will get Rivet installed in your
>> prefix, just without the docs and the rivetenv.sh script.
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Jul 2018, at 13:11, Sabah Salih <sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear James,
>>>>         I am very grateful for your kind help
>>>> I tried to apply rivet-bootstrap content line by line via command
>> line
>>>> 
>>>> YODA, HEPMC,... are fine
>>>> When I reached Rivet I get the following:
>>>> I attached the file which have the complete steps for RIVET
>>>> 
>>>> Many Thanks, Sabah.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> File
>> "/private/tmp/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/__init__.py",
>> line 12, in <module>
>>>>   from rivet.core import *
>>>> ImportError:
>> dlopen(/private/tmp/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so,
>> 10): Library not loaded: /tmp/rivet/local/lib/libRivet.dylib
>>>> Referenced from:
>> /private/tmp/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so
>>>> Reason: image not found
>>>> make[1]: *** [analyses.json] Error 1
>>>> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
>>>> Using output file name 'analyses.html' and directory 'analyses'
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>> File "mk-analysis-html", line 25, in <module>
>>>>   import rivet
>>>> File
>> "/private/tmp/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/__init__.py",
>> line 12, in <module>
>>>>   from rivet.core import *
>>>> ImportError:
>> dlopen(/private/tmp/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so,
>> 10): Library not loaded: /tmp/rivet/local/lib/libRivet.dylib
>>>> Referenced from:
>> /private/tmp/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so
>>>> Reason: image not found
>>>> make[1]: *** [analyses.html] Error 1
>>>> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>> 
>>>> ls -lh
>> /private/tmp/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/
>>>> total 312
>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 admin  wheel   351B  3 Oct  2017 __init__.py
>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 admin  wheel   598B 28 Jul 11:26 __init__.pyc
>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 admin  wheel   3.0K  6 Nov  2017 aopaths.py
>>>> -rwxr-xr-x  1 admin  wheel   121K 28 Jul 11:15 core.so
>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 admin  wheel   7.8K  3 Oct  2017 plotinfo.py
>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 admin  wheel   2.5K  3 Oct  2017 spiresbib.py
>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 admin  wheel   6.9K 20 Nov  2017 util.py
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Many Thanks, Sabah.
>>>> 
>>>> From Sabah Salih
>>>> Particle Physics Group,
>>>> The School of Physics and Astronomy,
>>>> The University of Manchester,
>>>> Schuster Laboratory,
>>>> Brunswick Street,
>>>> Manchester M13 9PL.
>>>> Tel: +44 1612754171 or  x4171
>>>> E-mail: sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: James William Monk [james.william.monk at cern.ch]
>>>> Sent: 25 July 2018 22:46
>>>> To: Sabah Salih
>>>> Cc: James William Monk; Andy Buckley; rivet at projects.hepforge.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rivet] ruvet and osx
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Sabah,
>>>> 
>>>> That error is just confirming that the Rivet lib is not present, I
>> presume because the build and/or installation failed.  Do you see any
>> other error that looks like a build error?  I’m not very familiar with
>> the bootstrap, so I can’t say whether it produces any build logs, or
>> where they would be, but we need to see the build failure message to
>> know why the libraries weren't built properly.
>>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> James
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 19:09, Sabah Salih
>> <sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear James,
>>>>>     Thank you so much.
>>>>>  Following your advice I did the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> edit rivet-bootstrap
>>>>> 
>>>>> and changed
>>>>> 
>>>>> function conf { ./configure --prefix=$INSTALL_PREFIX "$@"; }
>>>>> to
>>>>> function conf { ./configure CC=/usr/bin/clang CXX=/usr/bin/clang++
>> --prefix=$INSTALL_PREFIX "$@"; }
>>>>> 
>>>>> and
>>>>> ./configure  --prefix=$INSTALL_PREFIX
>>>>> to
>>>>> ./configure CC=/usr/bin/clang CXX=/usr/bin/clang++
>> --prefix=$INSTALL_PREFIX
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I type
>>>>> ./rivet-bootstrap
>>>>> 
>>>>> I get this
>>>>> File
>> "/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/__init__.py",
>> line 12, in <module>
>>>>>  from rivet.core import *
>>>>> ImportError:
>> dlopen(/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so,
>> 10): Library not loaded:
>> /Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/local/lib/libRivet.dylib
>>>>> Referenced from:
>> /Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so
>>>>> Reason: image not found
>>>>> make[1]: *** [analyses.json] Error 1
>>>>> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
>>>>> Using output file name 'analyses.html' and directory 'analyses'
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> File "mk-analysis-html", line 25, in <module>
>>>>>  import rivet
>>>>> File
>> "/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/__init__.py",
>> line 12, in <module>
>>>>>  from rivet.core import *
>>>>> ImportError:
>> dlopen(/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so,
>> 10): Library not loaded:
>> /Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/local/lib/libRivet.dylib
>>>>> Referenced from:
>> /Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/Rivet-2.6.0/pyext/build/lib.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/rivet/core.so
>>>>> Reason: image not found
>>>>> make[1]: *** [analyses.html] Error 1
>>>>> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> ls local/lib/libRivet.dylib
>>>>> ls: local/lib/libRivet.dylib: No such file or directory
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many Thanks, Sabah.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From Sabah Salih
>>>>> Particle Physics Group,
>>>>> The School of Physics and Astronomy,
>>>>> The University of Manchester,
>>>>> Schuster Laboratory,
>>>>> Brunswick Street,
>>>>> Manchester M13 9PL.
>>>>> Tel: +44 1612754171 or  x4171
>>>>> E-mail: sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: James William Monk [james.william.monk at cern.ch]
>>>>> Sent: 25 July 2018 13:57
>>>>> To: Sabah Salih
>>>>> Cc: James William Monk; Andy Buckley; rivet at projects.hepforge.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rivet] ruvet and osx
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sabah,
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, there’s no need to cross compile here, we just need to make
>> sure it uses compilers and libs all from the same toolchain and doesn’t
>> mix and match system tools with homebrew tools.  For example, to try to
>> use the system compiler you could try something like configuring Rivet
>> and its dependencies with the extra config option
>>>>> 
>>>>>      ./configure <usual config options> CC=/usr/bin/clang
>> CXX=/usr/bin/clang++
>>>>> 
>>>>> It looks like you prefer to use homebrew’s tools though.  I don’t
>> know where they are located on your system, but the equivalent
>> configure command would be
>>>>> 
>>>>>      ./configure <usual config opts> CC=/path/to/brew/gcc
>> CXX=/path/to/brew/g++
>>>>> 
>>>>> where you fill in the paths to the brew installation versions of
>> gcc and g++.  Of course, any Rivet dependencies (FastJet, GSL,
>> HepMC...) will also need to be configured in the same way first.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you just want to run Rivet, as opposed to develop for it, I’d
>> also suggest taking a look at the Docker distribution for mac:
>>>>> 
>>>>>      https://rivet.hepforge.org/trac/wiki/Docker
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> James
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 08:37, Sabah Salih
>> <sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear James,
>>>>>>      It is so nice to hear from you.
>>>>>> Thank you so much for your kind reply.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just done
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> brew tap osx-cross/arm
>>>>>> brew tap osx-cross/avr
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> brew install arm-gcc-bin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> brew install avr-gcc
>>>>>> This look like installing gcc8
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this what you meant?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many Tanks, Sabah.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From Sabah Salih
>>>>>> Particle Physics Group,
>>>>>> The School of Physics and Astronomy,
>>>>>> The University of Manchester,
>>>>>> Schuster Laboratory,
>>>>>> Brunswick Street,
>>>>>> Manchester M13 9PL.
>>>>>> Tel: +44 1612754171 or  x4171
>>>>>> E-mail: sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: James William Monk [james.william.monk at cern.ch]
>>>>>> Sent: 25 July 2018 01:10
>>>>>> To: Andy Buckley; Sabah Salih
>>>>>> Cc: rivet at projects.hepforge.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rivet] ruvet and osx
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From a bit of nurdling about on various fora, that error appears
>> to refer to an option that is present for clang, but not gcc.  Clang is
>> the supplied default on mac.  You have installed a separate gcc
>> toolchain via homebrew.  What I can imagine may be happening is that
>> autotools is detecting the system clang and adding options
>> appropriately, but then the g++ command is now calling the gcc from
>> homebrew.  For example, on my own mac I see
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     g++ --version
>>>>>>     Configured with:
>> --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr
>> --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1
>>>>>>     Apple LLVM version 9.1.0 (clang-902.0.39.2)
>>>>>>     Target: x86_64-apple-darwin17.7.0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s possible you may be able to cure this with some appropriate
>> environment settings like
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     export CC=/usr/bin/clang
>>>>>>     export CXX=/usr/bin/clang++
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Which would try to force it to use the system clang compiler
>> consistently.  Alternatively, try to point it to your homebrew compiler
>> location.  You may also like to consider removing homebrew as another
>> solution - I don’t know what else it adds for you, but personally I
>> have never found those kinds of packaging systems helpful on a mac
>> precisely because they bring a second toolchain into play that is not
>> always entirely consistent with the system toolchain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> James
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 00:48, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm afraid I don't use Macs, so am not sure what is best. Using
>> an earlier compiler might work; I'm a little surprised that autoreconf
>> did not help. Hopefully someone else on the Rivet team has a bit more
>> Mac experience and can help out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research
>> Fellow
>>>>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Glasgow
>>>>>>> On Jul 24 2018, at 4:52 pm, Sabah Salih
>> <sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear Andy,
>>>>>>>       Thank you ever so much. The problem look like it is in
>> YODA.
>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> cd YODA-1.7.0
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> autoreconf -i
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that did not fix it
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> cd ..
>>>>>>> this is where rivet-bootstrap
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and rerun
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ./rivet-bootstrap
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This did not fix it neither.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is the best way to get rivet to work in a mac please.?
>>>>>>> It does not have to be gcc8
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Many thanks, Sabah
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From Sabah Salih
>>>>>>> Particle Physics Group,
>>>>>>> The School of Physics and Astronomy,
>>>>>>> The University of Manchester,
>>>>>>> Schuster Laboratory,
>>>>>>> Brunswick Street,
>>>>>>> Manchester M13 9PL.
>>>>>>> Tel: +44 1612754171 or  x4171
>>>>>>> E-mail: sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk
>>>>>>> From: Andy Buckley [andy.buckley at cern.ch]
>>>>>>> Sent: 19 July 2018 14:41
>>>>>>> To: Sabah Salih
>>>>>>> Cc: rivet at projects.hepforge.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rivet] ruvet and osx
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Sabah,
>>>>>>> I have no idea about compilation with GCC 8 -- it looks like our
>> "autotools" build system assumes that a compiler flag will work, but
>> GCC 8 has removed it. I suspect that new versions of autotools would
>> fix it, but of course our existing tarball is built with an older
>> version.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You could try building the (final) Rivet step by hand, first
>> rebuilding the autotools bits with a call to "autoreconf -i". It may
>> even be possible to re-run the bootstrap script after doing that, and
>> let it finish the build with the updated Makefiles.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research
>> Fellow
>>>>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Glasgow
>>>>>>> On Jul 19 2018, at 9:15 am, Sabah Salih
>> <sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>    I am trying to install rivet in a max osx 10.13.6
>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> gcc --version
>>>>>>> gcc (Homebrew GCC 8.1.0) 8.1.0
>>>>>>> Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>>>>>>> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. 
>> There is NO
>>>>>>> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
>> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> gfortran --version
>>>>>>> GNU Fortran (Homebrew GCC 8.1.0) 8.1.0
>>>>>>> Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>>>>>>> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. 
>> There is NO
>>>>>>> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
>> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> g++ --version
>>>>>>> g++ (Homebrew GCC 8.1.0) 8.1.0
>>>>>>> Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>>>>>>> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. 
>> There is NO
>>>>>>> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
>> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I got rivet from the following url
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wget
>> http://rivet.hepforge.org/hg/bootstrap/raw-file/2.6.0/rivet-bootstrap
>>>>>>> chmod +x rivet-bootstrap
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After I run the following
>>>>>>> ./rivet-bootstrap
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I get the following in the end
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> g++ -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -dynamic -g -Os -pipe
>> -fno-common -fno-strict-aliasing -fwrapv -DENABLE_DTRACE -DMACOSX
>> -DNDEBUG -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshorten-64-to-32 -DNDEBUG -g
>> -fwrapv -Os -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DENABLE_DTRACE -DNDEBUG
>> -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -pipe
>> -I/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/YODA-1.7.0/include
>> -I/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/YODA-1.7.0/include
>> -I/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/YODA-1.7.0/pyext/yoda
>> -I/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/YODA-1.7.0/pyext/yoda
>> -I/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/include/python2.7
>> -c
>> /Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/YODA-1.7.0/pyext/yoda/util.cpp
>> -o
>> /Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/YODA-1.7.0/pyext/build/temp.macosx-10.13-intel-2.7/Users/admin/madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_6_3/rivet/YODA-1.7.0/pyext/yoda/util.o
>> -O3 -Wno-unused-but-set-variable -Wno-sign-compare
>>>>>>> g++: error: unrecognized command line option '-Wshorten-64-to-32'
>>>>>>> error: command 'g++' failed with exit status 1
>>>>>>> make[2]: *** [all-local] Error 1
>>>>>>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>>>>> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do I have to do to fix it please?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maany Thanks, Sabah.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From Sabah Salih
>>>>>>> Particle Physics Group,
>>>>>>> The School of Physics and Astronomy,
>>>>>>> The University of Manchester,
>>>>>>> Schuster Laboratory,
>>>>>>> Brunswick Street,
>>>>>>> Manchester M13 9PL.
>>>>>>> Tel: +44 1612754171 or  x4171
>>>>>>> E-mail: sabah.salih at manchester.ac.uk
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