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[Rivet] Rivet meeting at 10:00 - minutesAndy Buckley andy.buckley at durham.ac.ukFri Apr 24 15:53:05 BST 2009
Two addenda: * Riccardo to commit his Fox-Wolram moment projection. * Emily to commit something small (memory fade... remind me!) Andy Andy Buckley wrote: > Here's some rough minutes of today's phone meeting: please add more if > I've forgotten or misunderstood. > > > Release schedule and targets > ---------------------------- > Aim for 1.1.3 release during or shortly after MC4LHC at CERN. Andy will > work with Emily & Frank (at CERN) and James & Alex (at UCL) during that > week, esp. on finalising the Tevatron Z dilepton definitions in 3 of the > analyses. Once 1.1.3 is out, we start work on overhauling the > histogramming for 1.2.0, and writing up the manual as a CPC paper to > match that version, since we intend the whole design to then be stable. > ACTIONS: ALL > > > Axis label migration > -------------------- > It's a bit embarrassing that we don't currently have labels on the axes > of plots coming from Rivet, but that's mainly because AIDA doesn't > support them. So I've hacked LWH to add them, and provided new histo > booking functions which take the x & y axis labels as arguments (after > the title arg). Using the no-axes versions of the booking functions will > result in lots of runtime warnings: the plan is that these should all be > eliminated by the time of the release. Please check your own analyses to > make sure that axis labels are specified as the histos are booked, and > be a good citizen and opportunistically patch up any others that you > happen to see! > ACTIONS: ALL! > > > Migrate TrackJet, Jade & D0ILC jet algs to FastJet > -------------------------------------------------- > We're happy to migrate to FastJet 2.4.0, since we can ensure that Atlas > does the same! Andy will do the conversions. We will still be missing > the Durham alg, but hopefully we can now just bundle and build Hendrik's > Durham version of his Jade plugin with Rivet, rather than having to rely > on users to patch FastJet itself. > ACTIONS: ANDY (& HENDRIK) > > > Check your analyses for sensible norms & use of sumOfWeights > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Emily has removed the ill-advised auto weight counting from vetoEvent: > any analysis which was depending on sumOfWeights returning the sum of > event weights *to have passed the cuts* should check their analyses to > make sure that they are doing the right thing: you may need to add your > own weight counter member variable(s). > ACTIONS: ALL > > > DISKinematics & event rotation > ------------------------------ > James to implement the fixes we decided on (whatever they were!) for the > DISKinematics projection. He will also look into the logistics of > rotating events conventionally, and assuming it's reasonably > straightforward will implement it for this release. We suspect that > assuming a per-collider convention will be sufficient, hence no > per-analysis versions of the event should be needed. For object > ownership reasons, a deep copy of the incoming GenEvent should probably > be made as it "enters" Rivet. Note that rotations should be implemented > as rotations (e.g. x->x, y->-y, z->-z) rather than parity > transformations (all x_i->-x_i) for proper physical invariance. > ACTIONS: JAMES > > > Mac Genser bootstrap script issue(s) > ------------------------------------ > Emily encountered problems when using the version of the Genser > bootstrap script attached to the MacInstallationIssues wiki page. We'd > forgotten about this and it was almost a year out of date! James > reported that he uses the main agile-genser-bootstrap script for his > Mac, so Emily will move to using that and update the wiki page to > reflect reality! > ACTIONS: EMILY > > > Analyses: RHIC, UA1, UA5 > ------------------------ > Andy is implementing min bias analyses at the moment, for LHC QCD tunes. > James has a couple of HERA analyses that he's interested in. Frank has a > couple of CDF jet analyses almost ready to go: Andy will prod Mike about > getting some of their data into HepData. Hendrik will be working on the > RHIC analyses that he's currently looking at on his US tour. Emily has a > CDF analysis ready but is waiting for the data to pass CDF publication > committee. Jon commented that we shouldn't get too UE-focused, but I > forget which analyses he thought would be interesting ;) > ACTIONS: ALL, plus Andy to try and chase down Hw++ authors to implement > some of their analyses > > > What measurements we'd like from RHIC > ------------------------------------- > Hendrik has clarified that he wasn't just asked about UE analyses, but > from our discussion we identified <pT> vs N_ch, standard UE, UE as a > function of |eta|, UE with different transverse region sizes, maybe some > Gavin/Matteo type jet density stuff. It would be graet to have > measurements that can be directly compared to Atlas/CMS first > measurements: N_ch, |eta| distribution, low pT jets (incl, 1st, 2nd, 3rd > pT, etc.) with good jet algs (anti-kT, SIScone, kT, > Cam-Aachen(filtered)) etc. > ACTIONS: Everyone to have a think about non-UE observables, bearing in > mind excellent tracking and PID (any strangeness observables? there's a > LEP(?) paper on chain-lke production of strange baryons that could be > maybe repeated at RHIC). Andy to relay the message to MC authors. > > > Validation > ---------- > Given that we've done some infrastructure overhauls, validation against > the previous version of Rivet is important. Since the validator is most > set up for Sherpa at the moment, we will check the same Sherpa events > passed through Rivet 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 before releasing, and make sure > that there is some decent documentation Web page with plots as part of > the Rivet site. > ACTIONS: ANDY & FRANK > > > Other issues > ------------ > * MCnet school: Hendrik is in charge, Andy and Emily (?) to get in > touch about organisation. > > _______________________________________________ > Rivet mailing list > Rivet at projects.hepforge.org > http://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet
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