[Rivet] problems with RivetGun/Alpgen

renkel at physics.smu.edu renkel at physics.smu.edu
Tue Apr 13 21:20:03 BST 2010


Hi Andy,

There is no boost at FNAL. I used it to install it at FNAL, but if I 
want to install it on lxplus, it takes 100M of memory. This amount of 
data I can not put on lxplus to copy to my fermilab account. Is there 
any way out please? Can I just copy Rivet and Agile, and then install 
boost from FNAL somehow please?
Thank you!

Peter.

Quoting Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at ed.ac.uk>:

> rivet-bootstrap also has a --devmode switch which will make it get the
> latest head versions of both Rivet and AGILe from SVN... but it sounds
> like that won't work at Fermilab!
>
> You could use this mode at CERN, then copy the build/agile directory to
> Fermilab. This *should* work, but of course there are potential snags:
> you need to run "make clean" and run configure again, and be careful
> with the pyext/AGILe_wrap.cc and pyext/AGILe.py files: "make clean" will
> delete them and I don't know whether the Fermilab system has a valid
> version of the SWIG utility to rebuild them. You'll find out if you get
> compiler errors during the pyext build phase! If that happens, try
> copying them from the CERN build, and please let us know (with attached
> config.log and make output) if you have any further trouble.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience... the next AGILe release should solve your
> problem, but it's just finding the time to get everything finished off
> and make the tarballs that's difficult!
>
> Best wishes,
> Andy
>
>
> On 12/04/10 20:31, renkel at physics.smu.edu wrote:
>> Hi Andy, Regretfully, I am running this at FermiLab. I am using
>> rivet-bootstrap which has an option --install-agile. This installs agile
>> to my area. I don't have SVN here at FNAL, only CVS. Can you help me and
>> say what I should do to get it from your SVN? I can use my lxplus
>> account to install it there and then move FNAL, but will it work?
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>> Quoting Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at ed.ac.uk>:
>>
>>> Can you try using the SVN head version of AGILe: I think this problem is
>>> fixed there. We should make a new AGILe release sometime soon, but your
>>> feedback on whether the development version works would be very helpful!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/04/10 20:10, renkel at physics.smu.edu wrote:
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>> I am exporting AGILE_GEN_PATH. But the problem is that the system
>>>> looks for
>>>> /local/lib/libAGILeAlpGen.so, and I have just libAGILeAlpGenFPythia.so
>>>> and libAGILeAlpGenFHerwig.so. If I try to naively rename one of these
>>>> files, AGILE finds the generator, but crashes at execution. Do I need to
>>>> specify something when installing AGILe to have this shared library in
>>>> please? Or can I tell Alpgen to use the files I have?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>> Quoting Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at ed.ac.uk>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 09/04/10 23:30, renkel at physics.smu.edu wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Holger,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, but I still fight with it, The last test agile-runmc
>>>>>> --list-gens
>>>>>> fails - it does not give me alpgen. I was not able to track where
>>>>>> agile
>>>>>> finds the information on available generators. It goes into some c++,
>>>>>> which I don't understand. May be, you can help me here, then I can put
>>>>>> this information by hand. Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you setting and exporting the AGILE_GEN_PATH variable? If you run
>>>>> agile-runmc like so
>>>>>
>>>>> agile-runmc --list-gens -lTRACE
>>>>>
>>>>> you will get an enormous amount of output documenting all the paths and
>>>>> permutations that the library loader searches through to try and find
>>>>> each generator version... that will help you to debug whether you have
>>>>> the correct structure in which to find the AlpGen, PYTHIA, HERWIG, etc.
>>>>> libraries: the trick is to make it look as much as possible like the
>>>>> Genser area on AFS (although it is possible to leave out the
>>>>> platform/architecture tags directories)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley
>>>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr Andy Buckley
>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr Andy Buckley
> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>






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