[Rivet] xsection in rivet-nopy

[Andy Buckley]

IIRC, Sebastien Piec has been using it that way at DESY, too.

Andy


On 27/07/11 11:40, Hannes Jung wrote:
> ahhh, sure, then it works... if i run it on lxplus...
> cheers
> hannes
>
> On 27.07.2011, at 12:37, Andy Buckley wrote:
>
>> I meant "what happens if you just use the pre-built Rivet package
>> installed in the Genser area on AFS?". You need to set up the
>> compiler, Python, etc. to the LCG versions, and then source the setup
>> script for Rivet, but I have a script that does that for you: source
>> ~abuckley/public/setupRivetProf.sh
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On 27/07/11 11:31, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>> Hi Andy
>>>
>>> I can install some of the genser packages but rivet does not want to be
>>> installed.... there seems to be missing links.... so... hmm... i guess
>>> thisis a problem of the genser distribution then,...
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> hannes
>>>
>>> On 27.07.2011, at 12:22, Andy Buckley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does the same thing happen if you use the version installed by Genser?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27/07/11 10:19, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>> Hi Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is, that the installation works fine, no error message or
>>>>> complaint, but when running it it gives a seg fault (while it works
>>>>> with
>>>>> the nopy version):
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Rivet 1.5.2b0 running on machine pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch
>>>>> <http://pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch>
>>>>> <http://pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch>
>>>>> <http://pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch> (i386)
>>>>> zsh: segmentation fault rivet -a MC_GENERIC /tmp/example_out.dat
>>>>> -----
>>>>> and i have no idea where it comes from.... you remember, i had this
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of problem already last year, this is why I used the nopy version
>>>>> ... so
>>>>> .... since I am not expert, just want to use it,... I am lost...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Hannes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27.07.2011, at 11:01, Andy Buckley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, we're not going to add any more functionality to the rivet-nopy
>>>>>> program... especially not any optional command-line features, which is
>>>>>> why we moved to using Python in the first place. We don't have the
>>>>>> resources to maintain a second command line interface, and I don't
>>>>>> think it would anyway be a good idea for us to do so... I'm now even
>>>>>> tempted to change the name to
>>>>>> "rivet-debugging-hack-not-for-production-use" ;) If you really want,
>>>>>> you can make your own command-line interface based on the rivet-nopy
>>>>>> source, which is *very* simple, but it would be much better to get
>>>>>> your installation working properly so that you can use all the rest of
>>>>>> the Rivet processing scripts which are written in Python and only work
>>>>>> fully if they can import the rivet interface module.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Python interface works on CERN lxplus, on the Grid-deployed SL5
>>>>>> nodes and on all the development systems I've tried. It should work ok
>>>>>> on Macs -- we did some debugging that way last year, and our automatic
>>>>>> build system continually claims that it works -- although I don't have
>>>>>> regular personal experience of that. I'm not sure what's troublesome
>>>>>> about the DESY system, but it *should* be possible to make it work,
>>>>>> provided that the Python and GCC setup are compatible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/07/11 09:35, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Andy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks a lot for your reply.
>>>>>>> It's really a pity, since even with the new version 1.5.2b I am
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> problems running on macosx with python... so my work-around was using
>>>>>>> the nopy version, which worked fine....
>>>>>>> Is there a hope to have this option included in the future, since it
>>>>>>> always is a problem with the proper python version, even at desy on
>>>>>>> linux ... so this could be a workaround solution....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>> Hannes
>>>>>>> On 27.07.2011, at 10:06, Andy Buckley wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, there isn't. rivet-nopy is only intended to be a debugging /
>>>>>>>> profiling tool (a simple way to run the Rivet library elements
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> also getting information about the Python steering layer) which we
>>>>>>>> don't even install. It's not meant to be a functional equivalent to
>>>>>>>> the rivet command.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 27/07/11 08:44, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear Riveties
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is there a way to set the xsection when using rivet-nopy ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Hannes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ***********************************************************************
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley
>>>>>>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>>>>>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>>>>> Hannes Jung
>>>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley
>>>>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>>>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>>>>>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>>> Hannes Jung
>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741
>>>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung
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>>>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Andy Buckley
>>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>>
>>>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>>>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***********************************************************************
>>> Hannes Jung
>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
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>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung
>>> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 (DESY)
>>> Tel: +41 22 76 62602 (CERN)
>>> CERN - PH
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>>> Switzerland
>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Andy Buckley
>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>
>
>
> ***********************************************************************
> Hannes Jung
> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
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> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 (DESY)
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>
>
>


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