[Rivet] xsection in rivet-nopy

[Andy Buckley]

I meant "what happens if you just use the pre-built Rivet package 
installed in the Genser area on AFS?". You need to set up the compiler, 
Python, etc. to the LCG versions, and then source the setup script for 
Rivet, but I have a script that does that for you: source 
~abuckley/public/setupRivetProf.sh

Andy


On 27/07/11 11:31, Hannes Jung wrote:
> Hi Andy
>
> I can install some of the genser packages but rivet does not want to be
> installed.... there seems to be missing links.... so... hmm... i guess
> thisis a problem of the genser distribution then,...
>
> cheers
> hannes
>
> On 27.07.2011, at 12:22, Andy Buckley wrote:
>
>> Does the same thing happen if you use the version installed by Genser?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On 27/07/11 10:19, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>> Hi Andy
>>>
>>> ok.
>>>
>>> The problem is, that the installation works fine, no error message or
>>> complaint, but when running it it gives a seg fault (while it works with
>>> the nopy version):
>>> -----
>>> Rivet 1.5.2b0 running on machine pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch
>>> <http://pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch>
>>> <http://pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch> (i386)
>>> zsh: segmentation fault rivet -a MC_GENERIC /tmp/example_out.dat
>>> -----
>>> and i have no idea where it comes from.... you remember, i had this kind
>>> of problem already last year, this is why I used the nopy version ... so
>>> .... since I am not expert, just want to use it,... I am lost...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Hannes
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27.07.2011, at 11:01, Andy Buckley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>
>>>> No, we're not going to add any more functionality to the rivet-nopy
>>>> program... especially not any optional command-line features, which is
>>>> why we moved to using Python in the first place. We don't have the
>>>> resources to maintain a second command line interface, and I don't
>>>> think it would anyway be a good idea for us to do so... I'm now even
>>>> tempted to change the name to
>>>> "rivet-debugging-hack-not-for-production-use" ;) If you really want,
>>>> you can make your own command-line interface based on the rivet-nopy
>>>> source, which is *very* simple, but it would be much better to get
>>>> your installation working properly so that you can use all the rest of
>>>> the Rivet processing scripts which are written in Python and only work
>>>> fully if they can import the rivet interface module.
>>>>
>>>> The Python interface works on CERN lxplus, on the Grid-deployed SL5
>>>> nodes and on all the development systems I've tried. It should work ok
>>>> on Macs -- we did some debugging that way last year, and our automatic
>>>> build system continually claims that it works -- although I don't have
>>>> regular personal experience of that. I'm not sure what's troublesome
>>>> about the DESY system, but it *should* be possible to make it work,
>>>> provided that the Python and GCC setup are compatible.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27/07/11 09:35, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>> Dear Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot for your reply.
>>>>> It's really a pity, since even with the new version 1.5.2b I am having
>>>>> problems running on macosx with python... so my work-around was using
>>>>> the nopy version, which worked fine....
>>>>> Is there a hope to have this option included in the future, since it
>>>>> always is a problem with the proper python version, even at desy on
>>>>> linux ... so this could be a workaround solution....
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> Hannes
>>>>> On 27.07.2011, at 10:06, Andy Buckley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, there isn't. rivet-nopy is only intended to be a debugging /
>>>>>> profiling tool (a simple way to run the Rivet library elements without
>>>>>> also getting information about the Python steering layer) which we
>>>>>> don't even install. It's not meant to be a functional equivalent to
>>>>>> the rivet command.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/07/11 08:44, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Riveties
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is there a way to set the xsection when using rivet-nopy ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Hannes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>>>>> Hannes Jung
>>>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley
>>>>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>>>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>>> Hannes Jung
>>>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741
>>>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung
>>>>> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 (DESY)
>>>>> Tel: +41 22 76 62602 (CERN)
>>>>> CERN - PH
>>>>> 42-2-033
>>>>> CH-1211 Genève 23
>>>>> Switzerland
>>>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Andy Buckley
>>>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>>
>>>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>>>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***********************************************************************
>>> Hannes Jung
>>> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>> <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
>>> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741
>>> http://www.desy.de/~jung
>>> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 (DESY)
>>> Tel: +41 22 76 62602 (CERN)
>>> CERN - PH
>>> 42-2-033
>>> CH-1211 Genève 23
>>> Switzerland
>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Andy Buckley
>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>
>
>
> ***********************************************************************
> Hannes Jung
> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741
> http://www.desy.de/~jung
> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 (DESY)
> Tel: +41 22 76 62602 (CERN)
> CERN - PH
> 42-2-033
> CH-1211 Genève 23
> Switzerland
> ***********************************************************************
>
>
>
>


-- 
Dr Andy Buckley
SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh

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