[Rivet] xsection in rivet-nopy

Andy Buckley andy.buckley at ed.ac.uk
Wed Jul 27 11:22:00 BST 2011


Does the same thing happen if you use the version installed by Genser?

Andy


On 27/07/11 10:19, Hannes Jung wrote:
> Hi Andy
>
> ok.
>
> The problem is, that the installation works fine, no error message or
> complaint, but when running it it gives a seg fault (while it works with
> the nopy version):
> -----
> Rivet 1.5.2b0 running on machine pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch
> <http://pb-d-128-141-134-229.cern.ch> (i386)
> zsh: segmentation fault rivet -a MC_GENERIC /tmp/example_out.dat
> -----
> and i have no idea where it comes from.... you remember, i had this kind
> of problem already last year, this is why I used the nopy version ... so
> .... since I am not expert, just want to use it,... I am lost...
>
> Cheers
> Hannes
>
>
> On 27.07.2011, at 11:01, Andy Buckley wrote:
>
>> Hi Hannes,
>>
>> No, we're not going to add any more functionality to the rivet-nopy
>> program... especially not any optional command-line features, which is
>> why we moved to using Python in the first place. We don't have the
>> resources to maintain a second command line interface, and I don't
>> think it would anyway be a good idea for us to do so... I'm now even
>> tempted to change the name to
>> "rivet-debugging-hack-not-for-production-use" ;) If you really want,
>> you can make your own command-line interface based on the rivet-nopy
>> source, which is *very* simple, but it would be much better to get
>> your installation working properly so that you can use all the rest of
>> the Rivet processing scripts which are written in Python and only work
>> fully if they can import the rivet interface module.
>>
>> The Python interface works on CERN lxplus, on the Grid-deployed SL5
>> nodes and on all the development systems I've tried. It should work ok
>> on Macs -- we did some debugging that way last year, and our automatic
>> build system continually claims that it works -- although I don't have
>> regular personal experience of that. I'm not sure what's troublesome
>> about the DESY system, but it *should* be possible to make it work,
>> provided that the Python and GCC setup are compatible.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On 27/07/11 09:35, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>> Dear Andy
>>>
>>> thanks a lot for your reply.
>>> It's really a pity, since even with the new version 1.5.2b I am having
>>> problems running on macosx with python... so my work-around was using
>>> the nopy version, which worked fine....
>>> Is there a hope to have this option included in the future, since it
>>> always is a problem with the proper python version, even at desy on
>>> linux ... so this could be a workaround solution....
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>> cheers
>>> Hannes
>>> On 27.07.2011, at 10:06, Andy Buckley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>
>>>> No, there isn't. rivet-nopy is only intended to be a debugging /
>>>> profiling tool (a simple way to run the Rivet library elements without
>>>> also getting information about the Python steering layer) which we
>>>> don't even install. It's not meant to be a functional equivalent to
>>>> the rivet command.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27/07/11 08:44, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>> Dear Riveties
>>>>>
>>>>> is there a way to set the xsection when using rivet-nopy ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Hannes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ***********************************************************************
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>>>>>
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>>>> Dr Andy Buckley
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>>>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>>>
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>>> Hannes Jung
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Andy Buckley
>> SUPA Advanced Research Fellow
>> Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>
>
>
> ***********************************************************************
> Hannes Jung
> Email: Hannes.Jung at cern.ch <mailto:Hannes.Jung at cern.ch>
> mobile :+49 40 8998 93741
> http://www.desy.de/~jung
> Tel: +49 (0) 40 8998 3741 (DESY)
> Tel: +41 22 76 62602 (CERN)
> CERN - PH
> 42-2-033
> CH-1211 Genève 23
> Switzerland
> ***********************************************************************
>
>
>
>


-- 
Dr Andy Buckley
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Particle Physics Experiment Group, University of Edinburgh

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