[Rivet] CMS rivet analyses

Albert Knutsson albert.knutsson at desy.de
Thu Jun 30 10:37:07 BST 2011


Dear Rivet developers,

please find attached a new set of files updated according to your 
requests, and also
our response below. We will still update CMS_2011_S8884919.
It will be send to you as soon as possible.

Cheers,
Albert


> - Did you validate the Rivet analyses against your own analysis, i.e.
>    can you reproduce the MC plots in the publication? You are naturally
>    in a much better situation to do this than we are, so please set the
>    status in the .info files to "VALIDATED" if they are validated or fix
>    them if they need to be fixed.

Ok, done. (See also earlier answer.)

> - The info file for CMS_2011_S8968497 is fairly ... empty. Also the plot
>    titles in the .plot file only list cuts, not what observable you are
>    plotting. Do you plan to update this analysis?
>
Ok, .plot and .info updated.

Answer from author:
The ".plot" file I sent lists the cuts and also the x- and y-axis labels 
(the observable).
For more clarity, I put additionally the formula of the observable and 
copied the info from HepData and some extra info into the ".info" file. 
An update of the analysis with more integrated luminosity is foreseen.

> - The .plot file for CMS_2011_S8884919 is empty. Well, technically it's
>    not, but it doesn't contain any information. The .info file for that
>    analysis causes two parse errors that are easily fixed by indenting
>    the Description text and removing the whitespace around the colons in
>    the References.
>
> - In CMS_2011_S8884919 you fill the _h_cq_eta05 and _h_cq_eta24
>    histograms in the finalize method. Are you sure you are handling the
>    uncertainties correctly? Don't you have to use a DataPointSet and
>    handle the errors manually?

CMS_2011_S8884919 will come later.


> - The plot titles of CMS_2010_S8656010 talk about |eta|=0.1, |eta|=0.2,
>    etc. I assume you actually mean<= and not =. Is that correct?
>

Discussed in earlier mails. Nothing changed.

> Slightly more on-topic would be if the .info file could explain what 
> is actually meant by "NSD events": e.g. do the systematic errors take 
> account of different generators' SD modelling so that it would be safe 
> to compare to the "NSD processes" in PHOJET or Pythia8, or is the data 
> just constructed by subtracting the SD as modelled by PYTHIA 6? This 
> would be a useful thing to have documented in the analysis.

Ok, a few more lines were added to the info files. For more info we 
refer to the publications.








On 6/20/11 1:04 PM, Andy Buckley wrote:
> On 17/06/11 10:28, Ferenc Sikler wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>>> No, the numbers refer to the center of the eta intervals. Better
>>>> would be x<=|eta|<y. I agree, these titles are confusing, but as
>>>> it is now, the titles are exactly as in the paper.
>>>
>>> Uhm ... maybe that should be changed in the paper, too.
>>
>> I think it generally helps if you read the caption below the plots as 
>> well:
>>
>> "Differential yield of charged hadrons in the range |eta| < 2.4 in
>> 0.2-unit-wide bins of |eta| in NSD events."
>
> The captions tend not to make it into e.g. conference slides, so 
> better IMO to have the accurate information on the plot... but this is 
> rather off-topic ;)
>
> Slightly more on-topic would be if the .info file could explain what 
> is actually meant by "NSD events": e.g. do the systematic errors take 
> account of different generators' SD modelling so that it would be safe 
> to compare to the "NSD processes" in PHOJET or Pythia8, or is the data 
> just constructed by subtracting the SD as modelled by PYTHIA 6? This 
> would be a useful thing to have documented in the analysis.
>
> Thanks again,
> Andy
>

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