[Rivet] Upcoming paper, and rivet routines from CMS SMP-12-019 (jet mass measurement in dijet and V+jet events)

[Salvatore Rappoccio]

Hi, Andy,

Thanks a lot for the quick response! We will work very hard in the
coming week(s) to get this out the door.

Cheers,
Sal

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch> wrote:
> Yes, apologies that this wasn't clear. The "normal" situation is that
> there is one analysis code per paper, because typically there is only
> one process/topology type, but that rule is not absolute.
>
> The existence proof for this "split" analysis code is CDF's last
> underlying event paper which was combined to cover both the QCD jet and
> Drell-Yan event selections: this is in Rivet as the two analyses
> CDF_2010_S8591881_QCD and CDF_2010_S8591881_DY. Using a similar naming
> scheme for your analysis would be ideal... and of course ask us
> (rivet at projects.hepforge.org) if you've got any questions.
>
> Best wishes,
> Andy
>
> PS. I've included Lars Sonnenschein in the CC, as I think he has
> recently replaced Albert as the CMS Rivet contact.
>
>
> On 16/08/13 19:09, Salvatore Rappoccio wrote:
>> Hi, All,
>>
>> There was some discussion at the BOOST workshop yesterday about this
>> measurement's Rivet implementation. One thing that came up was that
>> there need *not* be a one-to-one paper-to-routine mapping and that
>> several routines can be made out of one paper. I think this would have
>> helped enormously in this particular case, and having several
>> topologies mapped into one routine has slowed this down tremendously.
>>
>> In the future, I would suggest that the CMS requirements change, and
>> we allow for a routine for any given topology.
>>
>> In the short term, we need Nhan's final implementation with the
>> current "multiple topologies" implementation, which will be
>> forthcoming soon.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sal
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Albert Knutsson
>> <albert.knutsson at cern.ch> wrote:
>>> Hi Salvatore et al,
>>>
>>> thanks for your work with writing the rivet plugin.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are some things that come to my mind:
>>>
>>> * Please use rivet 1.8.2 it is available in CMSSW_5_3_9 and CMSSW_6_2_0_pre2
>>>
>>> * It looks like you are missing the .aida, .info and .plot files.
>>> Examples you find here:
>>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators_hepmc2.06.08/rivet/1.8.1/share/sources/data/anainfo/
>>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators_hepmc2.06.08/rivet/1.8.1/share/sources/data/plotinfo/
>>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators_hepmc2.06.08/rivet/1.8.1/share/sources/data/refdata/
>>>
>>> * Please also try take a look at Rivet coding conventions and the feed back
>>> from the rivet developers:
>>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/CMS/Rivet#General_feedback_to_CMS_from_the
>>> http://projects.hepforge.org/rivet/trac/wiki/CodingStyleGuide
>>> (The rivet developers are very picky.)
>>>
>>> * For the validation CMS needs some validation plots. That is the out put
>>> from rivet compare to the data.
>>>
>>> There are more info on the our rivet twiki about all this.
>>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/CMS/Rivet
>>>
>>> Once you feel ready please send the files and plots to me and I will do some
>>> tests.
>>>
>>> We can also discuss on skype/vidyo if you need some more guidance/help.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Albert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/15/13 5:52 PM, Salvatore Rappoccio wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Hannes,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot! Albert, I'll follow the instructions.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sal
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Hannes Jung <hannes.jung at cern.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Salvatore et al
>>>
>>> I think Albert Knutsson (in cc) is the CMS responsible for Rivet.
>>> He makes sure that the routines satisfy the standards and are properly
>>> validated. So I think it is best to get in contact with him and follow
>>> the advice on the CMS Twiki
>>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/CMS/Rivet
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Hannes
>>>
>>> On 15.03.2013, at 17:44, Salvatore Rappoccio wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, All,
>>>
>>> We (at CMS) have completed a measurement of the jet mass in dijet and
>>> V+jet events. We have a Rivet routine for the dijet analysis already
>>> done (attached) and the V+jets in the works. We will have the data
>>> uploaded to HEPData very soon.
>>>
>>> What are the steps we need to do in order to get this analysis "riveted"?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sal, Nhan, Kalanand, David for CMS
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