[Rivet] Upcoming paper, and rivet routines from CMS SMP-12-019 (jet mass measurement in dijet and V+jet events)

[Albert Knutsson]

Hi Andy,

I think it is great that you accept more than one plugin/paper.

Previously I was told that the rule was one plugin per publication.
Therefore, I had already asked the plugin authors to make it that way for
this CMS analysis. Would you still accept it please, or do you want us to
split the files again? The plugin is essentially ready, just need one last
iteration before posting it here.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Albert, Lars, Sara



On 8/16/13 8:24 PM, Salvatore Rappoccio wrote:
> Hi, Andy,
>
> Thanks a lot for the quick response! We will work very hard in the
> coming week(s) to get this out the door.
>
> Cheers,
> Sal
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch> wrote:
>> Yes, apologies that this wasn't clear. The "normal" situation is that
>> there is one analysis code per paper, because typically there is only
>> one process/topology type, but that rule is not absolute.
>>
>> The existence proof for this "split" analysis code is CDF's last
>> underlying event paper which was combined to cover both the QCD jet and
>> Drell-Yan event selections: this is in Rivet as the two analyses
>> CDF_2010_S8591881_QCD and CDF_2010_S8591881_DY. Using a similar naming
>> scheme for your analysis would be ideal... and of course ask us
>> (rivet at projects.hepforge.org) if you've got any questions.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Andy
>>
>> PS. I've included Lars Sonnenschein in the CC, as I think he has
>> recently replaced Albert as the CMS Rivet contact.
>>
>>
>> On 16/08/13 19:09, Salvatore Rappoccio wrote:
>>> Hi, All,
>>>
>>> There was some discussion at the BOOST workshop yesterday about this
>>> measurement's Rivet implementation. One thing that came up was that
>>> there need *not* be a one-to-one paper-to-routine mapping and that
>>> several routines can be made out of one paper. I think this would have
>>> helped enormously in this particular case, and having several
>>> topologies mapped into one routine has slowed this down tremendously.
>>>
>>> In the future, I would suggest that the CMS requirements change, and
>>> we allow for a routine for any given topology.
>>>
>>> In the short term, we need Nhan's final implementation with the
>>> current "multiple topologies" implementation, which will be
>>> forthcoming soon.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Albert Knutsson
>>> <albert.knutsson at cern.ch> wrote:
>>>> Hi Salvatore et al,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your work with writing the rivet plugin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here are some things that come to my mind:
>>>>
>>>> * Please use rivet 1.8.2 it is available in CMSSW_5_3_9 and CMSSW_6_2_0_pre2
>>>>
>>>> * It looks like you are missing the .aida, .info and .plot files.
>>>> Examples you find here:
>>>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators_hepmc2.06.08/rivet/1.8.1/share/sources/data/anainfo/
>>>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators_hepmc2.06.08/rivet/1.8.1/share/sources/data/plotinfo/
>>>> /afs/cern.ch/sw/lcg/external/MCGenerators_hepmc2.06.08/rivet/1.8.1/share/sources/data/refdata/
>>>>
>>>> * Please also try take a look at Rivet coding conventions and the feed back
>>>> from the rivet developers:
>>>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/CMS/Rivet#General_feedback_to_CMS_from_the
>>>> http://projects.hepforge.org/rivet/trac/wiki/CodingStyleGuide
>>>> (The rivet developers are very picky.)
>>>>
>>>> * For the validation CMS needs some validation plots. That is the out put
>>>> from rivet compare to the data.
>>>>
>>>> There are more info on the our rivet twiki about all this.
>>>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/CMS/Rivet
>>>>
>>>> Once you feel ready please send the files and plots to me and I will do some
>>>> tests.
>>>>
>>>> We can also discuss on skype/vidyo if you need some more guidance/help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Albert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/15/13 5:52 PM, Salvatore Rappoccio wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Hannes,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot! Albert, I'll follow the instructions.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sal
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Hannes Jung <hannes.jung at cern.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Salvatore et al
>>>>
>>>> I think Albert Knutsson (in cc) is the CMS responsible for Rivet.
>>>> He makes sure that the routines satisfy the standards and are properly
>>>> validated. So I think it is best to get in contact with him and follow
>>>> the advice on the CMS Twiki
>>>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/CMS/Rivet
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Hannes
>>>>
>>>> On 15.03.2013, at 17:44, Salvatore Rappoccio wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, All,
>>>>
>>>> We (at CMS) have completed a measurement of the jet mass in dijet and
>>>> V+jet events. We have a Rivet routine for the dijet analysis already
>>>> done (attached) and the V+jets in the works. We will have the data
>>>> uploaded to HEPData very soon.
>>>>
>>>> What are the steps we need to do in order to get this analysis "riveted"?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sal, Nhan, Kalanand, David for CMS
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>> Dr Andy Buckley, Royal Society University Research Fellow
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