[Rivet] how to get insoire ID for data points

[Hannes Jung]

Ahh,.... so maybe the old code just worked, because 
papers still had a spires id..... good to know....
Thanks a  lot for the very prompt  (and late evening) responses


On 07.05.2014, at 22:43, Graeme Watt <Graeme.Watt at durham.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
> 
> Yes, the HepData URL schemes are of the form:
> 
>  http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/irn${SPIRESID}
>  http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/ins${InspireID}
> 
> but not:
> 
>  http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/irn${InspireID}
> 
> As you mentioned, it looks like you're doing things correctly in the
> latest "rivet-mkanalysis" (last changed by you 10 months ago).  More
> recent papers such as arXiv:1401.7610 don't have any SPIRES ID, so they
> don't get assigned a HepData "irn" URL.
> 
> Best regards,
> Graeme
> 
> 
> On 05/07/14 21:20, Andy Buckley wrote:
>> Ah, I see. The old version is the problem, since newer versions of
>> rivet-mkanalysis have these lines:
>> 
>> if INSPIRE_SPIRES == "I":
>>    hdurl = "http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/ins%s/yoda" % ANAINSPIREID
>> elif INSPIRE_SPIRES == "S":
>>    hdurl = "http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/irn%s/yoda" % ANAINSPIREID
>> 
>> i.e. we pick different URLs based on whether there is an I or an S in
>> the analysis name. Sorry Mike & Graeme, I guess this wasn't a HepData
>> change after all!
>> 
>> 
>> Hannes, have you tried using the new bootstrap script to get Rivet 2.x
>> building on your Mac? The latest set of instructions should work widely,
>> apart from a recent OS X bug where Apple didn't update Python when they
>> distributed a new version of the clang compiler which removed support
>> for some command line flags. If you are using OS X Mavericks with the
>> clang compiler then you should set these environment variables before
>> building Rivet:
>> 
>> export CC=clang
>> export CXX=clang++
>> export CFLAGS=-Qunused-arguments
>> export CPPFLAGS=-Qunused-arguments
>> 
>> For earlier Mac setups it should hopefully "just work" (of course the
>> problem with development tools on Macs as opposed to Linux has been that
>> historically they *don't* "just work"! But once this latest OS X build
>> tools bug has been fixed, the system tools should finally be reliable
>> and hopefully we'll have fewer Mac support calls to respond to ;-) )
>> 
>> If nothing else, please update at least to version 1.9.0!
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/05/14 21:59, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>> perfect... yes this is working...
>>> hmmm. I am still using an old version 1.8.3.... sorry..... 
>>> still having problems with 2.X to get working on my mac....
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Hannes
>>> 
>>> On 07.05.2014, at 21:56, Holger Schulz <hschulz at physik.hu-berlin.de
>>> <mailto:hschulz at physik.hu-berlin.de>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 07/05/14 20:51, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>> Hi Holger
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks a lot for this superfast response..... great....
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's not only for this file but for several papers I tried...
>>>>> Is there an easy way to fix this ?
>>>> Yes. If it's the same error all over, edit whatever `which
>>>> rivet-mkanalysis`
>>>> returns. Look for the line that looks like this:
>>>> 
>>>>    hdurl = "http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/*irn*%s/aida" % ANAINSPIREID
>>>> 
>>>> and change it to
>>>> 
>>>>    hdurl = "http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/*ins*%s/aida" % ANAINSPIREID
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please report back on your findings and which version of rivet you are
>>>> using.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Holger
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> Hannes
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 07.05.2014, at 21:48, Holger Schulz <hschulz at physik.hu-berlin.de
>>>>> <mailto:hschulz at physik.hu-berlin.de>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 07/05/14 20:32, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> for some reason the URL has of the data file on HepData has changed from
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/irn1279489/aida
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    http://hepdata.cedar.ac.uk/view/ins1279489/aida
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I need to find out whether this happened erroneous or if a more
>>>>>> refined url specification in rivet-mkanalysis is needed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I attached the aida file to this mail for you to proceed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Holger
>>>>>>> Dear Rivet gurus
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am trying to code some analysis in Rivet, which is already 
>>>>>>> published and where the data points are on Hepdata:
>>>>>>> For example https://inspirehep.net/record/1279489?ln=en
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if i then do 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> rivet-mkanalysis ATLAS_2014_I1279489
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was hoping to get the aida or yoda file with the data points,
>>>>>>> but I don't. What am I doing wrong ?
>>>>>>> Is the Inspire ID wrong, and if yes, where do I get it from ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Hannes
>>>>>>> 
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