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[Rivet] Rivet routine for D0_2000_I503361Frank Siegert frank.siegert at cern.chFri Oct 2 09:12:38 BST 2015
Thanks, this is exactly what I was after. Holger, which direction does the 15-20% offset go? Did you really set LJET:=1 (this would mean the 2->1 process is done at NLO, i.e. nothing here) or did you mean LJET:=2? Comparing to NLO we should definitely not see a 15-20% global offset, and this could point to wrong lepton cuts. Cheers, Frank On 1 October 2015 at 20:04, Gavin Hesketh <gavin.hesketh at ucl.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi, > sorry for weighting in again, but I'm pretty sure there should not be an ET > cut on the electrons... Section V in the paper mentions correcting for this. > Do the distributions look completely off if you remove that cut? > cheers, > Gavin > > > On 01/10/15 16:01, Holger Schulz wrote: >> >> On 01/10/15 15:43, Frank Siegert wrote: >>> >>> Hi Holger, >>> >>> given that you have committed this analysis now as validated (using >>> Sherpa), I was just wondering whether the normalisation looks as >>> expected. Simone mentioned that his validation was done using Pythia8, >>> and it would be surprising that Pythia8 matches the cross section >>> correctly -- one would expect a global ~ -15% offset due to the >>> missing NLO accuracy. >>> >>> Have you compared it against NLO Sherpa (or LO Sherpa scaled with an >>> appropriate k-factor) and see good agreement? Anything else could >>> point to missing (lepton?) cuts. >> >> >> Hi Frank, >> >> the paper states an ET cut for the electrons of at least 25 GeV, I >> implemented >> that one. I ran Sherpa with LJET=1, NJET=1 using the example setup and see >> a shape very much compatible with data. The offset is about 15-20%. I ran >> 100000 weighted events using trunk without MI_HANDLER >> >> Here is the shape comparison for the peak region: >> >> https://users.hepforge.org/~holsch/d01-x01-y01.pdf >> >> And this is the distribution up to zpt=150 GeV: >> >> https://users.hepforge.org/~holsch/d01-x01-y01_150GeV.pdf >> >> Cheers, >> Holger >> >>> Cheers, >>> Frank >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28 September 2015 at 11:39, Simone Amoroso<simo.amoroso at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Frank, >>>> >>>> For the selections (since the paper was not really clear), I copied what >>>> was used in the Z/W pT ratio (already in RIVET), >>>> which makes use of the same selections. >>>> >>>> The validation was simply made by running Pythia8, I definitely didn’t >>>> apply k-factors, >>>> but I might have rescaled the prediction to data (I honestly don’t >>>> remember). >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Simone >>>> >>>>> On 23 Sep 2015, at 16:07, Frank Siegert<frank.siegert at cern.ch> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I have just started to look at this to get it in for the imminent >>>>> release. The paper is at first glance not very clear on which >>>>> selection requirements were retained for the final cross section >>>>> measurement. Simone, do you remember, why you removed the electron ET >>>>> cuts? Did they correct completely for the electron acceptance? >>>>> >>>>> And for your validation plot, I was wondering which Monte-Carlo did >>>>> you run, and is the prediction scaled by a (K-)factor? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Frank >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1 July 2015 at 15:57, Chris Pollard<cpollard at cern.ch> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Simone, >>>>>> >>>>>> In this analysis I notice that there is no lepton pt cut imposed in >>>>>> the >>>>>> ZFinder. Was this intentional? I guess at least one lepton needs to >>>>>> have pT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10 GeV to fire the trigger? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Andy Buckley<andy.buckley at cern.ch> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 07/05/15 07:55, Simone Amoroso wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Andy, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I made a new RIVET routine for the D0 RunI measurement of the Z pT. >>>>>>>> Below a validation plot and attached the tarball. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Simone, I've put it in the analysis contrib area and we'll get >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> into a new Rivet release as soon as possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research Fellow >>>>>>> Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Rivet mailing list >>>>>>> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >>>>>>> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Rivet mailing list >>>>>> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >>>>>> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rivet mailing list >>> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >>> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rivet mailing list >> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >> > _______________________________________________ > Rivet mailing list > Rivet at projects.hepforge.org > https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet
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