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[Rivet] Rivet routine for D0_2000_I503361Holger Schulz holger.schulz at durham.ac.ukFri Oct 2 15:09:47 BST 2015
Hi all, here is the version without the electron cut on Et with LJET:=2 and NJET:=1 https://users.hepforge.org/~holsch/d01-x01-y01.pdf There are some Sherpa issues with primordial kT at tevatron run conditions, apart from that this looks pretty ok to me. Holger On 02/10/15 09:12, Frank Siegert wrote: > Thanks, this is exactly what I was after. > > Holger, which direction does the 15-20% offset go? Did you really set > LJET:=1 (this would mean the 2->1 process is done at NLO, i.e. nothing > here) or did you mean LJET:=2? > > Comparing to NLO we should definitely not see a 15-20% global offset, > and this could point to wrong lepton cuts. > > Cheers, > Frank > > > On 1 October 2015 at 20:04, Gavin Hesketh<gavin.hesketh at ucl.ac.uk> wrote: >> Hi, >> sorry for weighting in again, but I'm pretty sure there should not be an ET >> cut on the electrons... Section V in the paper mentions correcting for this. >> Do the distributions look completely off if you remove that cut? >> cheers, >> Gavin >> >> >> On 01/10/15 16:01, Holger Schulz wrote: >>> On 01/10/15 15:43, Frank Siegert wrote: >>>> Hi Holger, >>>> >>>> given that you have committed this analysis now as validated (using >>>> Sherpa), I was just wondering whether the normalisation looks as >>>> expected. Simone mentioned that his validation was done using Pythia8, >>>> and it would be surprising that Pythia8 matches the cross section >>>> correctly -- one would expect a global ~ -15% offset due to the >>>> missing NLO accuracy. >>>> >>>> Have you compared it against NLO Sherpa (or LO Sherpa scaled with an >>>> appropriate k-factor) and see good agreement? Anything else could >>>> point to missing (lepton?) cuts. >>> >>> Hi Frank, >>> >>> the paper states an ET cut for the electrons of at least 25 GeV, I >>> implemented >>> that one. I ran Sherpa with LJET=1, NJET=1 using the example setup and see >>> a shape very much compatible with data. The offset is about 15-20%. I ran >>> 100000 weighted events using trunk without MI_HANDLER >>> >>> Here is the shape comparison for the peak region: >>> >>> https://users.hepforge.org/~holsch/d01-x01-y01.pdf >>> >>> And this is the distribution up to zpt=150 GeV: >>> >>> https://users.hepforge.org/~holsch/d01-x01-y01_150GeV.pdf >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Holger >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Frank >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 September 2015 at 11:39, Simone Amoroso<simo.amoroso at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Frank, >>>>> >>>>> For the selections (since the paper was not really clear), I copied what >>>>> was used in the Z/W pT ratio (already in RIVET), >>>>> which makes use of the same selections. >>>>> >>>>> The validation was simply made by running Pythia8, I definitely didn’t >>>>> apply k-factors, >>>>> but I might have rescaled the prediction to data (I honestly don’t >>>>> remember). >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> Simone >>>>> >>>>>> On 23 Sep 2015, at 16:07, Frank Siegert<frank.siegert at cern.ch> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have just started to look at this to get it in for the imminent >>>>>> release. The paper is at first glance not very clear on which >>>>>> selection requirements were retained for the final cross section >>>>>> measurement. Simone, do you remember, why you removed the electron ET >>>>>> cuts? Did they correct completely for the electron acceptance? >>>>>> >>>>>> And for your validation plot, I was wondering which Monte-Carlo did >>>>>> you run, and is the prediction scaled by a (K-)factor? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Frank >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 July 2015 at 15:57, Chris Pollard<cpollard at cern.ch> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Simone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In this analysis I notice that there is no lepton pt cut imposed in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> ZFinder. Was this intentional? I guess at least one lepton needs to >>>>>>> have pT >>>>>>>> 10 GeV to fire the trigger? >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Andy Buckley<andy.buckley at cern.ch> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 07/05/15 07:55, Simone Amoroso wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Andy, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I made a new RIVET routine for the D0 RunI measurement of the Z pT. >>>>>>>>> Below a validation plot and attached the tarball. >>>>>>>> Thanks Simone, I've put it in the analysis contrib area and we'll get >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> into a new Rivet release as soon as possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research Fellow >>>>>>>> Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Rivet mailing list >>>>>>>> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >>>>>>>> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Rivet mailing list >>>>>>> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >>>>>>> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rivet mailing list >>>> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >>>> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rivet mailing list >>> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >>> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rivet mailing list >> Rivet at projects.hepforge.org >> https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet > _______________________________________________ > Rivet mailing list > Rivet at projects.hepforge.org > https://www.hepforge.org/lists/listinfo/rivet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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